Post by mobileweatherwatcher on Jan 18, 2022 16:55:37 GMT -6
From the NWS Mobile afternoon discussion:
Thursday night strong cold advection will be ongoing at the surface through about the 900mb level, with temperatures crashing into the lower 30`s by Friday morning and surface dewpoints tanking into the middle to upper 20`s. The atmospheric profile remains moist at and above the 900mb layer as continued moisture/theta-e advection continues in the mid to upper levels of the atmosphere with the main shortwave approaching from the west. This is going to set the stage for precipitation to develop as warm gulf moisture lifts above the surface cold dome in place. This process, known as overrunning, will help to produce a prolonged period of precipitation following the frontal passage. Initially it may be too dry within the cold dome to get precipitation to reach the ground Thursday night, however with continued precipitation falling through the column into the cold dome I anticipate wet bulb processes to do some work and help moisten the low levels to the point of precipitation reaching the ground. Now here is the real kicker, most global models have continued their tune of it being too dry to allow for this to occur. This has changed with the 12z ensembles of the GFS/CMC where greater precipitation amounts are being depicted Thursday night into Friday. The NAM has been the most aggressive and is an extreme outlier with overrunning precipitation so far, depicting overall qpf amounts exceeding 0.5" in spots. It is possible that most of whatever precipitation falls northwest of the I-65 corridor late Thursday night into Friday morning will be in the form of freezing rain. Surface wetbulb temperatures in the upper 20`s to lower 30`s and snow aloft falling into a 5 to 10C warm nose between 900 and 700mb should favor all liquid precipitation, and where surface temperatures are below 32F some freezing rain accrual can be expected. For now, anticipating around one or two hundredths of an inch of freezing rain accrual for areas along and northwest of the I-65 corridor. It is entirely possible that enough cold air is in place and enough precipitation continues into the day Friday that some locations may continue to deal with potential for freezing rain and subsequently higher freezing rain totals. This is of rather great uncertainty, and for now I have opted to keep light rain in the forecast for Friday into Friday evening with surface temperatures above freezing. I will re- emphasize that the forecast Thursday night into Friday evening is of very low confidence and subject to change. At the same time, subtle differences in surface temperatures will make a worlds difference between a non-event and a high-impact event. It`s important to remain weather aware and monitor our latest forecasts for any changes. For now, expecting temperatures Friday to rise into the middle to upper 30`s, with lower 40`s southeast of the I-65 corridor. Low temperatures tank Friday night into the lower to middle 20`s over interior portions of southeastern MS and southwestern AL, with upper 20`s to lower 30`s elsewhere. MM/25
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.EXTENDED TERM /Saturday Through Tuesday/...The extended forecast really isn`t much simpler. Rather low confidence persists into Saturday stemming from the Friday event. A surface low develops over the northeastern Gulf of Mexico Saturday as broad upper level troughing shifts across the eastern CONUS Saturday into Sunday. This low will be responsible for continuing to throw overrunning precipitation our way Saturday, and it isn`t out of the realm of possibility that there continues to be a threat for wintry precipitation given the cold surface temperatures. This is of even greater uncertainty given the propensity for low level warm advection to attempt to establish itself, and the general track of the developing surface low will dictate this. Beyond Saturday, a rather active upper level pattern continues with another shortwave tracking across the area sometime Monday or Tuesday. There is considerable run to run consistency issues between forecast guidance. It seems most reasonable that a slight chance to chance of showers overspreads the area Monday night into Tuesday. Expect cold temperatures across the forecast area for much of the period. Saturday and Sunday will likely feature highs in the middle to upper 40`s, with lower to middle 50`s for Monday and Tuesday. Lows will be very cold Saturday night, dipping into the lower to middle 20`s northwest of the I-65 corridor, and middle to upper 20`s southeast. A gradual warming trend is evident with low temperatures into Tuesday morning, gradually rising to the middle to upper 30`s. MM/25
All that’s true however anyone living in south Louisiana without a generator is living life too close to the edge. Everyone should have a generator and know how to use it. I say bring on the ice, I have a generator and enough small heaters to survive.
I have a great fireplace and all the wires in our neighborhood are buried underground! Of course for Ida, neither one was of any help.
Nevertheless, I do pray the only ice anyone finds is in their local grocery.
"Let's work the problem, people; don't make things worse by guessing!"
I do pray for little-to-no ice for our residents in the Forum area. Doing my evening walk (and observing around town) there are still so many blue roofs out and I can only imagine it is much worse in St. Charles Parish and points west. I know growing up in the Ohio winters, when ice would get on those thinner tarps, it would make the material brittle and once the ice melted you could touch the material and it would break up. Hopefully today's polymers are a little more durable- those folks still repairing their roofs/home structures certainly do not need this.
"Let's work the problem, people; don't make things worse by guessing!"
probably already read, but good discussion from LIX this afternoon:
"The cold pool at the surface will see temperatures fall into the upper 20s and lower 30s by Friday morning, but the cold pool will be shallow at 1500 feet or less. Above this shallow cold pool, sounding analysis indicates a nose of very warm air on the order of 4 to 5C or around 40F that will melt any snow falling from higher levels. Since the cold pool is expected to so shallow, refreezing is not expected, and sleet has not been included in the forecast. Thus, freezing rain is expected to develop by the late evening hours of Thursday and persist into the mid-morning hours on Friday. Although QPF values will remain light with values of only around a tenth of an inch or less expected, this amount of ice will have significant impacts in the area. The duration of the colder air will support icing of elevated surfaces like bridges, power lines, and tree limbs late Thursday night into Friday morning. The only region that should remain above freezing is the southshore of metro New Orleans and extreme coastal Louisiana."
Hammond, LA NWS COOP ID: 16-7425-08 CoCoRaHs ID: LA-TG-23