[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 11:14:55 GMT -6 via mobile geo2 - Bush/Waldheim Metroplex and burasla like this

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Sept 25, 2024 5:45:13 GMT -6 homeymandeville said:

Sept 25, 2024 5:40:46 GMT -6 Dutar76 said:

06z HAFS-B 908mb and strengthening at landfall.

If a Cat-1 intensifying into a Cat-2 at landfall has some effects of a Cat-3, a Cat-2 intensifying into a Cat-3 at landfall has effects of a Cat-4, and a Cat-3 strengthening into a Cat-4 has effects of a Cat-5... what happens when a Cat-5 is still bombing at landfall?

You end up with a Camille. You dont want that. Looking back at some records. Camille was intensifying all the way to landfall. Glad I was not around for Camille.

Camille was nasty, I was a child. We lost everything with 20 feet of water over our house in Buras, La, Plaquemines Parish. I hope everyone gets out of harm way. Our neighbor stayed for the storm and his body was never found. Praying for everyone in Helene’s path!

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 11:20:45 GMT -6 Mike T.- Chackbay,La, roz, and 10 more like this

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 11:42:50 GMT -6 via mobile tony2001 likes this

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Post by isaactheterrible_ EBR Parish on Sept 25, 2024 11:42:50 GMT -6

I don’t know if it’s me but when I look on social media or other weather forums it’s like they just wanting it to strengthen. They aren’t saying it like that but the way they are just posting about it. Thats just my opinion looking at social media.

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 11:48:46 GMT -6 via mobile geo2 - Bush/Waldheim Metroplex, NavyMom: WBR Parish, and 1 more like this

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Sept 25, 2024 11:42:50 GMT -6 isaactheterrible_ EBR Parish said:

I don’t know if it’s me but when I look on social media or other weather forums it’s like they just wanting it to strengthen. They aren’t saying it like that but the way they are just posting about it. Thats just my opinion looking at social media.

Hurricanes and tropical systems tend to stir powerful emotions. Sometimes they are expressed in unintended ways, especially on social media.

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 12:03:18 GMT -6 jimmycarl and jais like this

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Post by trethe on Sept 25, 2024 12:03:18 GMT -6

Whether or not these pressures are realized or not from the 12z Hurricane Models, they have been pretty consistent with showing similar outputs. They shouldn't be ignored. If it was just one model showing these low pressures, periodically, perhaps, but not when all of them show this on a fairly consistent basis.

HWRF 918mb
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HAFS-A 921mb
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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 12:22:54 GMT -6 tgrgrd00, VERticalnoGO, and 1 more like this

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Sept 25, 2024 11:42:50 GMT -6 isaactheterrible_ EBR Parish said:

I don’t know if it’s me but when I look on social media or other weather forums it’s like they just wanting it to strengthen. They aren’t saying it like that but the way they are just posting about it. Thats just my opinion looking at social media.

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 12:29:17 GMT -6 via mobile geo2 - Bush/Waldheim Metroplex likes this

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Post by VERticalnoGO on Sept 25, 2024 12:29:17 GMT -6

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 12:44:38 GMT -6 geo2 - Bush/Waldheim Metroplex likes this

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Post by trethe on Sept 25, 2024 12:44:38 GMT -6

Interesting statistic I just heard on the Weather Channel. From 2006 through 2016 there were no Major Hurricanes (Category 3 or greater) to strike the gulf coast. From 2017 through 2024 Helene would make the 9th Major Hurricane to strike the gulf coast. Incredible. This cycle needs to end soon.

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 12:50:14 GMT -6 trethe likes this

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Post by Kory on Sept 25, 2024 12:50:14 GMT -6

Sept 25, 2024 12:44:38 GMT -6 trethe said:

Interesting statistic I just heard on the Weather Channel. From 2006 through 2016 there were no Major Hurricanes to strike the gulf coast. From 2017 through 2024 Helene would make the 9th Major Hurricane to strike the gulf coast. Incredible. This cycle needs to end soon.

And we seem to be hitting cities that haven't taken a direct hit in a very long time too. It's spread out from Texas to Florida although Big Bend and Louisiana have seen the most.

I don't think Tallahassee has seen a direct hit of this magnitude in quite some time...I want to say it has been over 100 years. Michael was close but passed to the west so they avoided the eyewall/eye.

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 12:55:42 GMT -6 via mobile trethe and jais like this

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Post by homeymandeville on Sept 25, 2024 12:55:42 GMT -6

Sept 25, 2024 12:44:38 GMT -6 trethe said:

Interesting statistic I just heard on the Weather Channel. From 2006 through 2016 there were no Major Hurricanes (Category 3 or greater) to strike the gulf coast. From 2017 through 2024 Helene would make the 9th Major Hurricane to strike the gulf coast. Incredible. This cycle needs to end soon.

Or everyone south of I-10 from Houston over to I-75 in Florida will need to move because they will not be able to afford insurance! This is one time the federal govt needs to step in and take some action. There are other areas of the country that face similar seeamingly almost regular natural disasters. But that is not a discussion for here. Just venting a little. Sorry.

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 13:11:17 GMT -6 via mobile tgrgrd00 likes this

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Sept 25, 2024 12:55:42 GMT -6 homeymandeville said:

Sept 25, 2024 12:44:38 GMT -6 trethe said:

Interesting statistic I just heard on the Weather Channel. From 2006 through 2016 there were no Major Hurricanes (Category 3 or greater) to strike the gulf coast. From 2017 through 2024 Helene would make the 9th Major Hurricane to strike the gulf coast. Incredible. This cycle needs to end soon.

Or everyone south of I-10 from Houston over to I-75 in Florida will need to move because they will not be able to afford insurance! This is one time the federal govt needs to step in and take some action. There are other areas of the country that face similar seeamingly almost regular natural disasters. But that is not a discussion for here. Just venting a little. Sorry.

Lived in Western KY from 2007-2014. Had a house near Foley, AL for direct Hurricane Ivan before that, no damage. Moved to KY after and my car was totaled in 2008 from Hurricane Ike, in KY! (It was actually a good payout for me but ironic.) The following January 2009 was the worst catastrophic ice storm and frankly the worst disaster I have lived thru, and I've ridden out loads of storms. Power was out for WEEKS, even MONTHs for some people in rural areas in the dead of winter. And that doesn't even touch hiding from the tornadoes that hit Joplin and more, and was before Mayfield and more tornado emergencies. Also, flooding up there is on a whole new level too...

Bottom line, if you can live in the Ohio/TN Valley, Florida may have its risks, but I have never seen such deadly, major expensive losses and risks as up there. But it doesn't make for as sensational news I guess. You talk about insurance, all my major losses have been up there, altho Hurricane Sally (edit) was VERY unkind to my folks house, but not threat of death.

On a related note, here in Kissimmee, I am hoping for a new car so if just one tree falls over here with Helene, pick me! Lol. Hunkered down and ready. I drove up thru I-10 yesterday to avoid traffic and beat the damage that I expect to be unavoidable otherwise in Big Bend on my drive back...

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 13:24:44 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by homeymandeville on Sept 25, 2024 13:24:44 GMT -6

Sept 25, 2024 13:11:17 GMT -6 KatG said:

Sept 25, 2024 12:55:42 GMT -6 homeymandeville said:

Or everyone south of I-10 from Houston over to I-75 in Florida will need to move because they will not be able to afford insurance! This is one time the federal govt needs to step in and take some action. There are other areas of the country that face similar seeamingly almost regular natural disasters. But that is not a discussion for here. Just venting a little. Sorry.

Lived in Western KY from 2007-2014. Had a house near Foley, AL for direct Hurricane Ivan before that, no damage. Moved to KY after and my car was totaled in 2008 from Hurricane Ike, in KY! (It was actually a good payout for me but ironic.) The following January 2009 was the worst catastrophic ice storm and frankly the worst disaster I have lived thru, and I've ridden out loads of storms. Power was out for WEEKS, even MONTHs for some people in rural areas in the dead of winter. And that doesn't even touch hiding from the tornadoes that hit Joplin and more, and was before Mayfield and more tornado emergencies. Also, flooding up there is on a whole new level too...

Bottom line, if you can live in the Ohio/TN Valley, Florida may have its risks, but I have never seen such deadly, major expensive losses and risks as up there. But it doesn't make for as sensational news I guess. You talk about insurance, all my major losses have been up there, altho Hurricane Sandy was VERY unkind to my folks house, but not threat of death.

On a related note, here in Kissimmee, I am hoping for a new car so if just one tree falls over here with Helene, pick me! Lol. Hunkered down and ready. I drove up thru I-10 yesterday to avoid traffic and beat the damage that I expect to be unavoidable otherwise in Big Bend on my drive back...

That is some crazy and wild insurance stories right here. Wow! Good (but bad) stuff!

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 13:28:20 GMT -6 via mobile homeymandeville likes this

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Post by KatG on Sept 25, 2024 13:28:20 GMT -6

Sept 25, 2024 13:11:17 GMT -6 KatG said:

You talk about insurance, all my major losses have been up there, altho Hurricane Sandy was VERY unkind to my folks house, but not threat of death.

Sorry, meant to say Hurricane SALLY in AL, wrong S storm. Need sleep...

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[H] HURRICANE HELENE - Discussion & Aftermath Sept 25, 2024 13:39:49 GMT -6 geo2 - Bush/Waldheim Metroplex, Math Professor, and 1 more like this

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Post by Kory on Sept 25, 2024 13:39:49 GMT -6

Dry slot continues to wrap in.

I'm still skeptical/wondering how we get something like a compact core ramping up like the hurricane models have given how broad the wind field is at the moment. Regardless, this will be a surge monster with wind/flooding rainfall extending well inland to the Southern Appalachians.